الوصف الوظيفي لمسمى Discipline Engineer

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  1. IndEng

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    يعطيكم العافية يا اخوان ... حبيت استفسر عن الوصف الوظيفي لمسمى Discipline Engineer

    يا جماعة اللي عنده أي فكرة خل يفيدني

    وشكرا مقدما :)
     
  2. فهد شموه

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    ☀Q8 دار الفخــر والعــز☀
    هلا فيك أخوي "IndEng"
    ممكن يكون الوصف الوظيفي لهذه الوظيفه تحت مسمى "منسق عقود" صيانة أو ما شابه حسب الشاغر
    وبالتوفيق إن شاء الله
     
  3. IndEng

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    يعطيك العافية أخوي فهد
    انا اللي اعرفه انه "منسق عقود" يكون تحت مسمى "Contracts Administrator"
    بس شنو بالضبط Discipline Engineer هذا اللي أبي أعرفه ...
    انا هذا مسماي بأحد عقود ال كي او سي مع احدى الشركات الكورية
     
  4. فهد شموه

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    يصير عزيزي وانا قلت لك حسب الشاغر ومنها المسمى الوظيفي وطبيعة العمل. بس عفواً أخوي ممكن تقوللي شنو شهادتك؟ وبأي تخصص؟
     
  5. IndEng

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    يعطيك العافية أخوي فهد
    انا يا خوي شهادتي بكالوريوس هندسة صناعية ونظم إدارية وعندي شهادة ماجستير إدارة أعمال
     
  6. فهد شموه

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    ☀Q8 دار الفخــر والعــز☀
    أخوي أنت عندك مجال إن يحطونك في المجال الصناعي والإداري وكلهم ينصبون حسب المسمى اللي عطوك إياه تحت طبيعة عمل مشتركة وهي "الإنضباط" أو ضبط العمل والجوده تقريبا
     
  7. IndEng

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    مشكور أخوي فهد عالرد

    أخوي فهد يعني قصدك إنه طبيعة العمل إدارية مو فنية technical ؟؟؟
    والله ياخوك ما أدري بالضبط إذا يقصدون قسم الجودة خصوصا إنه في مهندس بقسم الجودة مسماه QA/QC Engineer
     
  8. فهد شموه

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    صح كلامك... عشان جذي أخوي قلت لك تلاقي ممكن يحطونك فحص جوده أو منسق عقود في الإدارة أو مراقب عام على ورش ومصانع وحتى ممكن الأمن والسلامه... لأنك إجتزت بعض المواد المشتركة أثناء دراستك اللي تأهلك للعمل في مجالات متعددة... عموماً نبارك لك الوظيفة الجديدة... وإن إختلفت المسميات فطبيعة العمل في كثير من المهن متشابه تقريبا... لكن كل شركة تسمي على كيفها :D

    بالتوفيق أخوي
     
  9. IndEng

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    يعطيك العافية أخوي فهد... مشكور وما قصرت :)
     
  10. MEng

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    Discipline Engineer

    اخوي IndEng

    Discipline Engineer معناته مهندس متخصص والمسمى لا يقف على هذا فيجب أن يشمل التخصص كذلك مثل

    Discipline Engineer Industrial, or Discipline Industrial Engineer

    يتم العادة تحديد التخصصات المطلوبة تحت هذا المسمى في إعلانات التوظيف وطبيعة العمل تختلف من مكان إلى آخر لكن يتم عادة استخدام هذا المسمى للتفرقة بينه وبين مهندس مشروع Project Engineer

    أنا شخصيا ما مر علي Discipline Industrial Engineer اللي شفتهم
    Mechanical, Process/Chemical, Civil/Structural or Electrical/Control/Instruments
     
  11. IndEng

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    أخوي MEng مشكور على الرد
    بس أنا المسميات اللي ذكرتهم ولا واحد ينطبق علي وحتى اعلان التوظيف ما كانوا ذاكرين هالأشياء هذي
    أخوي يعني قصدك إنه هالوظيفة فنية technical؟؟؟
     
  12. MEng

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    Yes it's a technical position. Your final job title may or may not be "Discipline Engineer" per se, but you will be performing technical tasks within your area of speciality as oppose to other engineers performing project management activities. Since you'll be working for a Korean company it's probably for a design/construction project, hence you will be performing design related work. You'll get good experience if you want my opinion​
     
  13. IndEng

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    Thanks for your response...but I have no experience in design work. I have a bachelor degree in industrial engineering and a master degree in business administration. In addition, my experience (approx. 6 years) is far away from design work as I worked before in sales + quality + project management fields.
     
  14. MEng

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    You may want to clarify your roles and responsibilities with the employing company to see if you are capable and willing to accept the job. You can always pick up new skills if you put your time into it, and I believe they would've reviewed your profile to see if you're suitable to begin with.

    Anyways I'm bias toward technical tracks and leaving management roles for later, so you may not want to listen to my advice​
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    For me, advices are always welcomed :)

    The position of "Discipline Engineer" came from KOC according to the Kuwaitisation clause in their contracts. Yes, you are 100% correct. KOC and the Korean company reviewed my profile, otherwise how they approved me in this position. The problem that when I asked the Korean company at the time of interview with them about my roles and responsibilities, they replied "this designation is cloudy for us and we don't know what KOC meant of it, you can ask KOC during your interview with them!!!"

    It might be that the Korean company did not care about the responsibilities as their interest is just to fill this vacant, otherwise they will pay penalties to KOC. However, during my interview with KOC, I asked them about my roles and responsibilities, "this will be explained later after I join the Korean company", they replied.

    I have the passion and interest to learn and gain new skills, even if it is technical, although I never heard an industrial engineer working in a technical job and it seems to me like I am starting from scratch and my MBA and experience are vanished.

    Are you working in KOC??? It seems that you are a knowledgeable person of what I am taking about and I am seeking your advice. So, in which discipline category you advise me to work in? Do you have any idea if this position allows me to attend meetings or communicate with KOC staff?

    Thanking you in advance :)
     
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    Dear IndEng

    Dear as you accept the advice, why don't you wait for the next recruitment Declaration of Kuwait Petroleum Corporation? ... I think you're qualified to do so by your specialty of bachelor degree in industrial engineering jobs. It could be better for you than working in private sector companies ... As you know, work in the private sector has many disadvantages such as it's dependent on fixed-term contracts ... I'm talking in terms of your career ... But if you look at this as it will serve your CV ... At the end it is up to you dear

    Regards
     
  17. IndEng

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    مشكور أخوي فهد على النصيحة :)
    ما تفرق وين الواحد يشتغل... أهم شي الواحد يحلل المعاش اللي قاعد ياخذه ويحاول يطور من نفسه ويطور اللي حوله
    ياخوي محد ياخذ إلا نصيبه في هالدنيا والتوافيج من رب العالمين


    الحمدلله رب العالمين... الطموح موجود والقناعة موجودة
     
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    يا مال العافية أخوي عسى الله يعطيك على قد نيتك ويوفقك آمين... إنت إنسان طموح وهذا العشم فيكم يا عيال الديره... أتمنى لك التوفيق والنجاح وإن شاء الله تكون لنا زميل في القطاع وكلنا تحت أمرك لأي إستفسار بأي وقت وهذا منتداك

    ولك مني عاطر التحية
     
  19. MEng

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    IndEng,

    I salute you for being very motivated and willing to learn, and not looking for the easy money

    Well in your case you really need to contact the Korean company and clarify your role with them. This is a bit weird, I understand that KOC coordinates the employment (badly from what I hear), but to mandate the positions on them! That adds to the reasons why private companies are not interested in retaining Kuwaitis.

    As fas as what discipline to work in, other than the mainstream roles (Mechanical, Electrical, etc.) you can try a commissioning role or QA/QC role which give you rapid technical exposure, or even HSE roles which are less technical (I've seen industrial engineers doing Occupational Health or Environmental Engineering roles).

    I don't think your experience and MBA will be gone to waste, if anything they will aid you in your next job. Say you want to lead a team/project in the future you will certainly need to understand the design process and a couple of years doing design can cover this competency for you.

    I've been working with an International Oil Company for 4 years as a Mechanical "discipline" Engineer, the learning curve is steep at the start but before you know it things become routine. I never worked in KOC (I don't have the "social" prerequisites and talent to survive in a public sector) so I'm not sure if you will be in contact with KOC personnel or not.
    Thanks for the compliment, I'm glad to be of help to you at anytime

    Fahad,

    You're right, there are risks involved when working in the private sector, but as IndEng said
    محد ياخذ إلا نصيبه في هالدنيا
    so I would have to disagree with you about going to KPC now, wouldn't it be great if most engineers get a solid experience from international companies and then join KPC companies at a later stage when they can be listened to and can make an influence? And then we would see positive change in KPC?​
     
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    Welcome again dear MEng

    I'm talking about real life stories I hear from people working for private companies ... The only reason for accepting the job just because their request's not been accepted by the KPC.

    I'm with you that working in the private sector gives the employee experience and self-motivation, but that does not exist ... Because private company be politicized from its owners !!! and the right lost @@ ... And many cases against them in court because of non-receipt of salary ... And you know how important salary is to ensure the needs of the family
    that's why I prefer K Companies rather than the private sectors
    Thanking your patient
    :)
     
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